LeBron James vs. Michael Jordan: Who is the NBA GOAT?
September 2, 2023 · Club Shay Shay
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Duration10 min
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Shannon Sharpe
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Stephen A. Smith
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LeBron James is the GOAT because his sustained excellence over …Shannon's case
LeBron James is the GOAT because his sustained excellence over 21+ years, two-way dominance, and the unprecedented quality of opposition he faced (e.g., the 2017-18 Warriors super-team) make his résumé more complete than Jordan's.
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Stephenstatistical2:47
Do you understand that Jordan is six and o in NBA finals? Do you understand that Jordan was MVP all six NBA finals? Do you understand that Jordan never even allowed a final series to go seven games?
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Stephenopinion1:03
The game was started in 1947. I got LeBron James, the thousands of players that have played in the NBA. I got him number two all time.
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Stephenstatistical9:50
Six MVP. Top leader scorer before LeBron passed him.
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Shannonstatistical1:58
Six NBA finals losses.
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Stephenopinion3:56
LeBron is universally respected and revered. MJ was feared. You know the difference between reverence and fear.
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Stephenopinion9:37
He will never be greater than Jordan to me. Let's go to Kareem — 19 time all star, six time league MVP, champion on a high school level.
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Shannonrhetorical2:31
Tell me the team that he faced that was the 2017 or the 2018 Golden State Warriors.
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Stephenfactual6:07
Magic Johnson in the first title. Clyde Drexler in the crew, the second title. Charles Barkley, Kevin Johnson, the third. Payton, the glove, with Sean Kemp before he became Sean Kemp. And then also, you've got Karl Malone, John Stockton.
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Shannonopinion6:54
What you and the old school guard have equated physicality with talent and skill. The guys in today's game are more skilled.
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Shannonrhetorical7:37
All that MJ did was cook. LeBron had to cook, he had to clean, he had to wait table, he had to take orders.
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Shannonstatistical3:09
10 time NBA scoring champion, nine time all defensive play on defensive first team.
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Stephenopinion6:28
You've got an NBA game that was considerably tougher at that particular moment in time than today's NBA game is in terms of physicality and what's allowed.
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Stephenopinion7:28
If he was playing today, he would be what he needed to be in order to be successful today.
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Shannonfactual1:58
Your storm happened for nine years, then took two years off. And it happened for three years. It took another three years off. And then it kinda just was like drizzling. My thought storm been going for twenty one years raining.
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Shannonopinion3:19
You know good well LeBron James should have won defensive player of the year. How does a smart Gasol who's a second team all defensive player be defensive player of the year?
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Shannonrhetorical7:50
How many guys you know that are top five scorers and top five assists?
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Stephenfactual8:01
They couldn't even get the ball past half court because Scottie Pippen and Michael Jordan had them on lock with a full court press. We never see LeBron do that.
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Stephenfactual4:55
I also saw him get checked when Jason Terry was guarding him in the post in his finals against Dallas.
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